Scaling Laws: A New AI Regulatory Regime? SB 813 with Lauren Wagner and Andrew Freedman

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Jul 30, 2025

In this episode, join Kevin Frazier as he delves into the complex world of AI regulation with experts Lauren Wagner of the Abundance Institute and Andrew Freedman, Chief Strategy Officer at Fathom.

As the AI community eagerly awaits the federal government's AI action plan, our guests explore the current regulatory landscape and the challenges of implementing effective governance with bills like SB 813. Innovative approaches are being proposed, including the role of independent verification organizations and the potential for public-private partnerships.

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Fathom is a 501(c)(3) organization funded by philanthropists. We do not take donations from corporations, including frontier labs and the FAANG companies, or foreign entities associated with countries of concern.

Independent.
Nonpartisan.
Nonprofit.

Fathom is a 501(c)(3) organization funded by philanthropists. We do not take donations from corporations, including frontier labs and the FAANG companies, or foreign entities associated with countries of concern.

Independent.
Nonpartisan.
Nonprofit.

Fathom is a 501(c)(3) organization funded by philanthropists. We do not take donations from corporations, including frontier labs and the FAANG companies, or foreign entities associated with countries of concern.